Do they want a Revolution?

[Mom4liberty]

I am beginning to think that Nancy Pelosi (in my limited and outdated professional opinion) really is mentally ill.

On Monday night, the New York Times reported: "The White House and Democratic Congressional leaders, scrambling for a backup plan to rescue their health care legislation if Republicans win the special election in Massachusetts on Tuesday, are preparing to ask House Democrats to approve the Senate version of the bill, which would send the measure directly to President Obama for his signature."

Whole article: http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2010/01/18/pelosi/index.html?source=rss&aim=/politics/war_room

She is so hell bent on passing this thing that she is willing to ignore every obvious message being sent her way. She ignores the voices of the people on the steps of the capital, she ignores polls, she ignores the elections in Va, NY and now Mass.? She is even willing to risk an out and out revolt by the people of this Country(perhaps that is what they want) She is beyond rational thinking and is obsessed. One may even determine that she suffers from Megalomania...

Megalomania is defined as:[1]

1.A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
2.An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or actions.

If the shoe fits.....

Hmm.....wonder if we can challenge the legitamacy of everything that has passed under her guidence if we have her declared mentally incompetant? :mad:

[grruff]

The Continental Congress 2009 (www.cc2009.us) is planning a peaceful revolution, finding and proposing ways that we can use the constitution to resist this federal takeover. Read the articles of freedom and check out their videos (speeches from the November convention).

The Fed's have ignored our constitutional rights for 100 years now - it's past time we fought back. And the best way is to take over the Republican precincts, then the state organizations (as Nevada has already done), then the national organization. Then we can take the party back to the Reagan conservatism and beyond.

And we need to stop being moderate and appeasing to the Dem's. They have finally shown their true colors - there are no moderate democrats in Washington.

[hokiedad]

Ggruff- I agree that there are no moderate Democrats but I would further say there are not enough conservative republicans and certainly not enough Americans. Even the "conservative" republicans are not conservative enough for me. Just look how many times they compromise with the Democrats. If I'm thirsty and looking forward to a big glass of cold water, it doesn't make much difference if it's half full of poison or 1/4 full of poison, I'm not not drinking it! Wait and see if the Republicans don't come out today after the big Massachusetts election and starting laying a path to national healthcare compromise. I'll bet you my house.

[Cyneca]

Hokie, Unfortunately I do believe you are right.

Mom4,

You asked if what they wanted was a full scale revolt. I come to you with what I believe is the simple answer.... YES.

The PTB's (Powers That Be's) want us to grab our guns. They want us to protest violently. They want us to try and storm capitol hill with the intent to remove them by any means possible. Why?

BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN REMAIN IN POWER!!!

You see, they know they are up a certain creek without a paddle. The message has been sent with how close NY23 was (which actually was a win for us but they rushed through the swearing in and the challenger conceded before everything was made official). It was sent with the election of a conservative republican governor in VA. It was sent yesterday in Mass. Dodd in CT has bowed out knowing he will lose and hoping that another liberal Dem without so much baggage connected to his name will keep the state. Reid is in deep dodo in Nevada, even Pelosi is in trouble in her district in CA. Obama is 0 for 4 in helping dem candidates get elected. Dem Congress people in swing states are scared to death. The final chapter of this story has been written, unless they can do something drastic to change the outcome.

So they are looking at the future and grasping at straws to find a way to stop the bleeding, and the only way they have come up with to do so is this.... STOP THE 2010 ELECTIONS. There is only very few ways to accomplish this. They cant arbitrarily say "Ok gang, no more elections." They have to have a reason, something that upsets the country so much that it may topple. What better way to do this then to inflame, and provoke the American People into picking up arms and overthrowing the government?

If they can get the American People so incensed that they revolt, then Obama can use the Emergency Powers Act to stop all elections, declare Martial Law nation wide, dissolve the congress, and put into place the shadow government that he has been building all year with his Czars. He and the Dems CAN NOT afford to loose any of their current power. The investigations that would come about with a conservative, and I mean a true conservative not this RINO crap, movement gaining the upper hand would quite literally destroy the Democratic Party. It would cease to exist. If investigations uncovered atrocities that we know have been perpetrated against the American People and the Constitution, the democratic house of cards would crumble.

Obama and the Dems know that this must be prevented at all costs. Those dems in congress would rather loose their positions in government, then see the party destroyed and their programs defeated. If they can not push us to revolt, then be ready, be vigilant, be prepaired for election fraud on a scale that would make even Achmadini-whatever his name is- over in Iran blush in embarrassment and cry foul.

What we have currently in the white house is Hugo Chavez on steroids. The biggest difference is that Hugo Chaves is in it for himself and what power he can gain and retain, whereas with Obama, he is merely a puppet of a much bigger, more vicious, and much more evil a master who we havent seen yet. The master pulls the strings, and Obama dutifully answers "Yes We Can."

[JT Keller]

Hokie, Unfortunately I do believe you are right.

Mom4,

You asked if what they wanted was a full scale revolt. I come to you with what I believe is the simple answer.... YES.

The PTB's (Powers That Be's) want us to grab our guns. They want us to protest violently. They want us to try and storm capitol hill with the intent to remove them by any means possible. Why?

BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN REMAIN IN POWER!!!

You see, they know they are up a certain creek without a paddle. The message has been sent with how close NY23 was (which actually was a win for us but they rushed through the swearing in and the challenger conceded before everything was made official). It was sent with the election of a conservative republican governor in VA. It was sent yesterday in Mass. Dodd in CT has bowed out knowing he will lose and hoping that another liberal Dem without so much baggage connected to his name will keep the state. Reid is in deep dodo in Nevada, even Pelosi is in trouble in her district in CA. Obama is 0 for 4 in helping dem candidates get elected. Dem Congress people in swing states are scared to death. The final chapter of this story has been written, unless they can do something drastic to change the outcome.

So they are looking at the future and grasping at straws to find a way to stop the bleeding, and the only way they have come up with to do so is this.... STOP THE 2010 ELECTIONS. There is only very few ways to accomplish this. They cant arbitrarily say "Ok gang, no more elections." They have to have a reason, something that upsets the country so much that it may topple. What better way to do this then to inflame, and provoke the American People into picking up arms and overthrowing the government?

If they can get the American People so incensed that they revolt, then Obama can use the Emergency Powers Act to stop all elections, declare Martial Law nation wide, dissolve the congress, and put into place the shadow government that he has been building all year with his Czars. He and the Dems CAN NOT afford to loose any of their current power. The investigations that would come about with a conservative, and I mean a true conservative not this RINO crap, movement gaining the upper hand would quite literally destroy the Democratic Party. It would cease to exist. If investigations uncovered atrocities that we know have been perpetrated against the American People and the Constitution, the democratic house of cards would crumble.

Obama and the Dems know that this must be prevented at all costs. Those dems in congress would rather loose their positions in government, then see the party destroyed and their programs defeated. If they can not push us to revolt, then be ready, be vigilant, be prepaired for election fraud on a scale that would make even Achmadini-whatever his name is- over in Iran blush in embarrassment and cry foul.

What we have currently in the white house is Hugo Chavez on steroids. The biggest difference is that Hugo Chaves is in it for himself and what power he can gain and retain, whereas with Obama, he is merely a puppet of a much bigger, more vicious, and much more evil a master who we havent seen yet. The master pulls the strings, and Obama dutifully answers "Yes We Can."

Folks, I must disagree here. Is anyone surprised? Don't answer that. Certainly, there is no doubt that many of us are cynical, and frankly, that we have no reason whatsoever to believe that our dysfunctional government will do the right thing. But, there are many things that are being overlooked here. For one, the election of a Republican in a state that is only 11% Republican is not only historic, but it is virtually unheard of. Unheard of in the past 6 decades or so. Democrats are running for cover much like cockroaches on a white rug. They (the dems.) know that the jig is up. Think about this folks, if I told you one year ago that Republicans would win key elections in very blue states one year from now, what would you have said? Get the F out of here!!! I'm frankly surprised at you all. Look where change is taking place. It is not in DC!!!
These cowards know exactly what is coming. The snowball that is small r republicanism is picking up steam, don't fall off. What is it that we are looking for? Huh? Could it actually be candidates who actually represent their respective constituents? Candidates who actually say what they mean, and mean what they say. I submit that the election of Scott Brown in a dark purple state is virtually unprecedented.
Here is why I think that both houses will back off, and in the process become lameducks. It is simple, there is far too much light on there activities, public opinion is such that even these bastards know that if they do the wrong thing here, they not only will be voted out of office, but could well serve quite a bit of time in jail. I'm telling you all that even these scumbags will not risk this. They are, for the first time in who knows how long afraid. That's right they are scared. Look at what they are saying today. Even the purple dinosaur is acting statesmanlike.
The "president" will keep on doing what he is doing. But, without Congress to what avail? Our movement has brought us to this point. A man who would be king, coupled with a congress terribly frightened. We could not be in a better position, time to implement a full court press on these usurpers. What is happening here is historic, if not revolutionary. Think about what has been accomplished in one year. Really, please reflect back. Last year, the Republican Party was declared extinct. Where are we now? In one year!!!!
Folks, there is far too much light on these bastards to do what they want to do. Watch them withdraw, just watch them. There is a full blown revolt taking place as we speak. The difference is, this revolt is peaceful, orchestrated by those who use what the good Lord gave them, rather than what man created. The American people do not like to be told what to do, even in Massachusetts. We must stay the course and compel candidates to reverse all the damage that has been done. Public will is on our side, the truth is on our side, the time to attack is now upon us.


JT
"The only angry 912-er" :p

[Cyneca]

*snickers*

Ahh JT.. Ive missed you so much.

I wasnt saying that what we saw happen yesterday, and what I predict will happen come November if we can keep it real and on track wasnt something historic. That it wasnt a shot heard throughout the halls of government in DC. Quite the contrary.

Mom4 asked if what Pilosi and Company wanted was a revolt. To that my answer is what you see above. I believe that she and the PTB's want a revolt for the very reasons I stated above. Will they get it? Hard to say, but doubtful, or at least not in the form they desire. They are getting a revolt, but its not one that they can use to insure their power base.

As for November and possible election fraud.... we will have to wait and see, but Im betting that we will see a good deal of it. After all, it may not have gotten Obummer elected, but election fraud was a big part of his margin of victory.

[JT Keller]

*snickers*

Ahh JT.. Ive missed you so much.

I wasnt saying that what we saw happen yesterday, and what I predict will happen come November if we can keep it real and on track wasnt something historic. That it wasnt a shot heard throughout the halls of government in DC. Quite the contrary.

Mom4 asked if what Pilosi and Company wanted was a revolt. To that my answer is what you see above. I believe that she and the PTB's want a revolt for the very reasons I stated above. Will they get it? Hard to say, but doubtful, or at least not in the form they desire. They are getting a revolt, but its not one that they can use to insure their power base.

As for November and possible election fraud.... we will have to wait and see, but Im betting that we will see a good deal of it. After all, it may not have gotten Obummer elected, but election fraud was a big part of his margin of victory.

Cyn,
Thank you for making my case. No, Mom, asked if Pelosi is fit to serve. She is not, among others. Nothing but loonies, as far as the eyes can see. And for the reasons mentioned above in my post, there will be no election fraud. There is simply too much light on these people. They must behave, as long as the light is shining this bright, there will be no end to their "statesmanship." Care to make a wager?


JT

[Cyneca]

Cyn,
Thank you for making my case. No, Mom, asked if Pelosi is fit to serve. She is not, among others. Nothing but loonies, as far as the eyes can see. And for the reasons mentioned above in my post, there will be no election fraud. There is simply too much light on these people. They must behave, as long as the light is shining this bright, there will be no end to their "statesmanship." Care to make a wager?


JT

LOL Thanx to Obummer and the Congressional spending, and the fact that I have to start setting aside money to help my great great great grandchildren pay for this debt they have given us... I'm too broke to bet anything other then maybe a few sheets of toilet paper. LOL And even that is iffy. :p

[JT Keller]

LOL Thanx to Obummer and the Congressional spending, and the fact that I have to start setting aside money to help my great great great grandchildren pay for this debt they have given us... I'm too broke to bet anything other then maybe a few sheets of toilet paper. LOL And even that is iffy. :p

Well, Cyn
I'm partial to Charmin. So, a few sheets it is.

God Bless,
JT

[Mom4liberty]

Both of you are correct in your interp of my questions. I DO wonder if Pelosi is fit to serve AND I wonder if what they are doing by ignoring The People is quite intentional to force a violent response, allowing them to point the fingers at "the right wing nuts" and go full steam ahead with lightening speed. If you believe that Obama and his buds are not running the economy into the ground intentionally, then the reasonable alternatives are:

1) that they have a combined IQ of a clam
2) certifiably insane
3) are unbelievably incompetant, and ignorant
4) all of the above

I agree that the question now will be...will they continue down the path to destruction of the free market republic or will they come to their senses and save their own butts? Their actions will dictate the verocity of the response by The People in November. ;)

[JT Keller]

Both of you are correct in your interp of my questions. I DO wonder if Pelosi is fit to serve AND I wonder if what they are doing by ignoring The People is quite intentional to force a violent response, allowing them to point the fingers at "the right wing nuts" and go full steam ahead with lightening speed. If you believe that Obama and his buds are not running the economy into the ground intentionally, then the reasonable alternatives are:

1) that they have a combined IQ of a clam
2) certifiably insane
3) are unbelievably incompetant, and ignorant
4) all of the above

I agree that the question now will be...will they continue down the path to destruction of the free market republic or will they come to their senses and save their own butts? Their actions will dictate the verocity of the response by The People in November. ;)

They will save their own butts, or at least try to. Look at what happened today? They are beyond pathetic. Mom, you can get in on the Charmin deal too, if you want. What is it Cyn, a few sheets? In German, one would say "Den Kopf des Muschel" or Clam Brain. Insane is Verucht. Dumkopf/ oder Was ist los mit ihr Kopf? oder Alles. They are already running for cover, just like the chicken sh-- cowards that they are. Should we have a bet about Nancy Pelosi's botox issue?

JT

[Mom4liberty]

JT,
Sorry if this gets a bit wordy but I am a woman after all. ;) I disagree with you that they are backing down. I think that they are "slowing down". What has happened in the last year is not a new thing, they were just bold enough and drunk with power, and mistakenly believed that people finally agreed (had been brainwashed enough) with their agenda enough to boldly put it out in the open for the first time. Why? Because for years now they had been preparing the foundation, excavating, compacting the soil, waiting for the cement to cure before they began to build the structure.

I believe long term denegration of society has been part of the socialist/progressive agenda for a long time now (watch interviews with KGB's Zbigniew Brzezinski, intriguing if nothing else). In psychology it is called de-sensitization; the theory there being that if you are given increasingly hot chili peppers from the time you are a baby by the time you are an adult you can eat "Devil's Blood" on your eggs without a trip to the ER. They have done it through the schools, through the media, through the movies, video games, books, music etc.

They(the progressive administration) will not stop. They will temporarily s-l-o-w down, giving the appearence that they are listening to the people in the hope to quell the discontent in enough of the populous to not lose their majority in Congress(politics as usual). Trust is EARNED not given. My eldest daughter, when she was 7, stole a $5 key chain from a specialty store. We found out when we got home. My husband put her back in the car and drove the 2 hrs back to the store, made her fess up, apologize to the clerk and return the item. I was not sure that she understood why stealing was wrong, just sorry that she got caught so I watched her like a hawk for months after that. She had to earn my trust back.

Since they have not been truthful to date, I have no reason to trust them anymore now just because they SAY they have gotten the message. They SAY things a lot. I do not see any remorse or admission that they were wrong in substance, just in methodology. They are looking for another stealthier way to accomplish the same goals.

[Mom4liberty]

P.S.

I have as many sheets of TP in my house as the Fed has printed notes, so I am not sure how valuable they would be (for now). ;)

[grruff]

I doubt it! Last year the Fed printed one trillion dollars in one day! You can't use that much tissue in a lifetime! Readers, please excuse the subject matter, but this will give us all some idea of the magnitude of the spending binge that our non-representing representatives are on.

Let's say you use 20 sheets per day, and that one sheet equals one dollar. And let's use $1 trillion for reference, keeping in mind that they're about to raise the debt limit by $ 1.9 trillion - to a total of $14 trillion.

1,000,000,000,000 sheets (dollars) / 20 per day/ 365 days per year = 136,986,301 years for one person to use that much tissue.

To be fair, we have about 308,530,735 people in the US, so $1T =
136,986,301 / 308,530,735 = 0.44 years per person. So, given a $3T yearly budget, the government spends as many dollars in a year as the TP we use in .44 x 3 = 1.33 years.

So we're using TP 75% as fast as they're printing money!

[Mom4liberty]

George,

Unfortunately, the TP may someday out value the USD if they don't knock off the idiotic printing!

PS we have a household of 8 at the moment and about 1 yrs worth of double roll 2ply, I still say we can give the fed a run for their money!:D

[hokiedad]

MOM- your insight is amazing! I see no change either. As a matter of fact I am willing to take up wagers that the now sitting Republicans will now line up to "compromise" with the Democrats "for the good of the country" now that they have slowed down the greedy Dems. They will not miss out on their chance to cash in on the prize. We must stand firm and remove ALL encumbents from both parties and fundamentally change forever how Washington does business or we will be right back where we started or worse. There is no difference between Dems and Repubs. They are ALL corrupt or soon will be. We must rid our republic of professional politicians!

[Mom4liberty]

"Be on your guard against the ruling power; for they who exercise it draw no man near to them except for their own interests; appearing as friends when it is to their own advantage, they stand not by a man in the hour of his need." [2:3] Selected quotes from "Sayings of the Fathers" in the Standard Prayer Book