I'm not one to buy into conspiracy theories but...

[PITBULL]

Doesn't this seem very compelling? It's a long vid, almost 2 hours but well worth the watch. Please watch the entire video before responding. I think this may be the most important video of our time. Am I wrong? Please enlighten me with your thoughts. I supported W with the war in Iraq and his efforts to keep us safe, but I believe he let us all down with his appearance of being complicit to Meximericanada, illegal immigration (remember the issue of the illegal that murdered 2 young girls), the bailouts and the global warming hoax.


Be swift, if the Bilderberg Group gets wind of this I bet it disappears... FAST.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

[dw04]

Yeah, I pretty much believe everything in that movie now, 2 years ago I would have called you crazy. If you want to watch a scary movie about "conspiracy theories" watch zeitgeist. It debunks religion, which take it with a grain of salt, but what they say seems true. Then they say 9-11 was an inside job, which the "facts" they give make you wonder. Then they go into talking about the FED, NWO, and how every war that we have had was started to make money.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&ei=gGjPSavFDcTI-AaojuWhBQ&q=zeitgeist&hl=en&client=firefox-a

Some people won't believe it, but it will make you think twice about just accepting the dribble that DC feeds us.

[PITBULL]

Man, I have a totally different outlook on humanity after watching that. I've started researching the Venus Project now and the Zeitgeist movement. I agree that many wont accept it, the monitary system has firm roots in the American belief system, but it (the video)paints a very clear picture to me, especially after watching The Obama Deception (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw).

I hope also that if anyone who views it or see it as a reason to divert from the 912 Project, it's not. It only really conflicts with 1 of the values and none of the principals, and to me makes the 912 Project even MORE important.

[Dusty]

Hi folks,
Hope you don't mind me commenting. I did not watch the entire video as of yet. However early in the video the presumption was made that the birth of Christ was on Dec. 25, which in fact had been disputed until the fourth century A.D. by the Eastern and Western churches which during the fourth century was agreed to celebrate on Dec. 25th. Josephus was a Roman citizen and historian that lived in the time of Christ. Although he did not confirm miracles done by Jesus, he did confirm His life relative to the political uprising. Therefore, if something that I know is incorrect, is stated as fact, then how can I trust that which I can not easily check? Having said this, I have no doubt of conspiracy and treachery by both religious figures as well as the politicians. My question is how many are just stupid and how many are guilty of treason. To often both religious leaders and politicians seek to place their fellow man in bondage. In the case of socialists, they seek to place entire societies even the world in bondage. Ironically by first asking that you covet thy neighbor's goods, then grant them permission to take thy neighbor's goods and they will share them with you, which of course they do not.
In the case of many religious figures, they ask for money which they then use for both personal excess and increase the marketability of their churches which then increases the money being taken in. However in the Old Testament a tithe of ten percent was required by God, but it could not be paid with money, only the fruits of your labors, sheep, grains etc..... there was an allowance made if the distance was too far to reasonable drive cattle or carry grains. In this case one could sell his goods, but must buy those same goods before presenting them to the temple/God. Of course the priest along with those called the money changers conspired to rob the people with the exchange rate for replacing their goods. These are those who the Bible records, that Jesus beat and drove out of the temple courtyard. The plan of God was the Levi Priest had homes but not lands, therefore, they could use from the tithes what they needed but the excess would be distributed to the poor. I point this out because you do not hear these principles spoken of by many religious leaders when they are asking for money, but I have seen one or two that gave to others far more than they received. I would like to leave both believer and non-believer with three or four scriptures to ponder from the Bible, King James Version.
And God said, let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creatures that hath life,and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly after their kind and every winged fowl after his kind, and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let the fowl multiply in the earth. Gen 1:20-22.
Genesis 2:4 states: These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens.
Also consider II Peter 3:5: For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the Word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water.
Can someone tell me if this is not the divine Word, how did someone 3300 years ago (in the time of Moses) know that the water brought forth fowl?
Do you suppose Charles Darwin read these passages?
Sometimes the messenger may not be worth shooting, but don't give up on the message.